In Krasnodar, an informal association ‘Citizens of the USSR’ ordered the assassination of a local rabbi. The killer was an operative from the Center to combat extremism.
There is an informal community in Russia that calls itself “Citizens of the USSR”. These people believe that they still live in the USSR since there is no legal justification for the termination of the existence of this state. (And this is partly true.)
Members of this community do not pay taxes, do not pay loans, do not pay for utilities.
In most cases, they are simply considered cranks.
However, in Krasnodar, the heads of the local branch of Citizens of the USSR, 70-year-old Zoya Malova and 60-year-old Alexander Dudarenko, went a little further than non-payment of utility bills.
They conceived the murder of the rabbi and the head of the Krasnodar Jewish community, Sergei Tkach.
For this purpose they hired a hitman, who turned out to be operative Center to combat extremism.
Malova and Durenko gave the imaginary killer the murder weapon – a nylon stocking and a clerical knife.
The police warned the rabbi of the impending attempt on his life.
To convince those who ordered the murder, the rabbi was made up as if his throat had been cut, several photographs were taken and sent to those who ordered the murder.
Soon Dudarenko and Malova were detained and charged with attempted murder.
Krasnodar, Russia
And another affluent Jew gets ousted as a pedophile
Hasidim arrived for the holiday in Uman.
How do you like this in “Nazi” Ukraine?
lol. They love saying that don’t they. Ukraine is as Nazi as I am jewish.
Don’t know where they get it from anyway. The Americans probably push that narrative too because Ukraine might be unapologetical and proud of their heritage. They don’t understand that Eastern Europeans / Slavs have a different mentality and on average care way less about appeasing minorities and liberal faggots. Ethnic nationalism is the name of the game, if I’m not mistaken.
Even Holocaust survivors are saying that Ukraine is “not nazi”, and that Putin is ‘worse than Hitler’.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220925-ukraine-is-not-nazi-holocaust-survivors-tell-putin
Irony so thick you can cut it with a knife.
But yeah, they’re everywhere. Some don’t have the hook nose and green eyes
In ultra-Nazi Ukrainian public pages they fiercely hate Russians and Russia.
But at the same time, they are very loyal to Jews and Muslims and respect their Jewish president.
Specifics of Ukrainian nationalism.
I think that every nation’s set of nationalist values is unique to them, mainly due to the current landscape and strategy. For instance, Ukraine strongly opposes Russia because they are their main threat right now. The strategy for this century is keeping Russia off their back and perhaps even getting some proactive revenge to put their mind at ease, so being supportive of anything that will help them against Russia such as being supportive of Jews or Muslims for whatever tactical utility they see in such support, is only normal.
They feel threatened now, so they find it tempting to ally with anyone and everyone as a defense mechanism.
But as the adage goes, to see a man’s true nature, give him power. Once people get power, friendships go out the window, they change over night
It’s right. But it is unlikely that nationalists will gain power in Ukraine.
I think you will find this interesting. I spoke with one person who participated in the fighting in Ukraine.
Most of all I was interested in the mood in the Russian army and the goals of the war from the point of view of the soldiers.
I will give his answers briefly.
1. The soldiers of the Russian army have no doubt about victory. If the command had given the order, we would have defeated Ukraine long ago.
2. We are fighting for territories. Ukraine has excellent fertile land and if we capture it it will be very good.
3. The local population in the occupied territories is in apathy. They no longer care what country they will live in, Russia or Ukraine. They want only one thing – for the war to end.
Zelensky is a liar, he promised to end the war in Donbass, but instead the war came to our house.
Russian soldiers are fagots. Because where the Russians appear, shooting begins.
4. There are atrocities on both sides of the conflict.
5. War is good! The Russian economy develops from the war.
6. Putin said that all soldiers returning from the war will receive the rank of officers, and all officers will receive the rank of generals.
7. I personally received many bonuses and preferences from the state from the war: I do not pay taxes, my children are guaranteed to receive a higher education, free of charge, and many other bonuses.
8. I was psychologically traumatized. When I hear the sound of a tractor or combine, I expect an artillery strike.
I disagree with a lot of this, but I didn’t have time to convince this guy. He’s not hopeless, he just doesn’t know much.
But it is what it is.
This is useful insight into the minds of the soldiers.
I find it surprising that their morale is so high, that they have undying belief in the war machine.
SSU intercepts paint the opposite picture, but then again those are cherrypicked.
Also, he might be saying things that he has heard and simply wants to believe. It’s all he has perhaps. Deep down he’s probably scared shitless and just wants it over with but its not the time for him to acknowledge that, he has to gear up and go fight again soon. Once a few battles are won, people tend to get overzealous and morale skyrockets, they think the enemy is fleeing for dear life, so their flawed beliefs are somewhat understandable. But deep down they must know that it’s going like shit.
How would they explain why command has not given the order to get it over with yet? What smart ass reason would they have to insist on NOT winning the war as fast as possible rather to drag this bloodbath out for so long? Also, wasn’t the original plan to occupy Kiev in a few days to begin with?
All these contradictions just indicate to what I said earlier, they’re simply coping. They’re lying to themselves. Or they have amnesia and/or they’re dumb. Or maybe they know something we don’t. But I doubt it.
I’m no expert, but I’d say Ukraine is winning militarily simply by holding off a bigger force for so long. Although nobody is winning here except whoever is financially profitting from the war.
“There are atrocities on both sides of the conflict.”
This is usually said by the aggressor, to equalize the two sides. Even kids can see through such bullshit.
You invaded someone’s home, what do you think is going to happen to you? You deserve every atrocity you get. Yes, the Ukrainians can do no wrong in this war.
Here’s another reality: soldiers aren’t the smartest people.
The military wants dumb idiots that will follow every order, and thinking too much can get in the way of that.
I know smart people who served and not many have a positive view of the military. Sure it’s important to have a standing army and all but, let the idiots do the grunt work. Most of them wanted to fuck around in the business world.
It’s the same with the police.
Point is, ultimately, it doesn’t even matter what these people think. They’re expendable, here today, dead tomorrow. Not even an individual person, but a statistic. Died like cattle on the battlefield, fighting for ignoble reasons, praising a corrupt criminal politician/gangster while they’re at it, who doesn’t give a shit about them.
Imagine living and dying like this. What a low level to stoop down to.
The forecasts of Ukrainian and Russian liberal political scientists did not come true. Russian soldiers did not turn their weapons against the authorities; on the contrary, they realize that they are waging a war of conquest and they like it.
This guy I was talking to didn’t know a lot of obvious things. He did not know who started the war, he is sure that the referendums in the occupied territories were held fairly.
But overall this dude is not hopeless. It’s a pity that I didn’t have enough time to talk.
It is curious that this guy’s close people hold liberal and anti-war views, but do not try to influence him.
But that day was rich in meetings with the military.
Later I met my neighbor who served at Wagner.
I didn’t want to talk to him, but he immediately boasted that he had received a medal “For Courage”.
He came on vacation for a few days. I managed to say that I left Wagner for another PMC.
This is what we were talking about. The state has lost its monopoly on murder. There are already more than 20 different PMCs in Russia and it is not clear how they will behave when this whole machine begins to collapse.
The authorities are trying to transfer all PMCs under the authority of the Ministry of Defense; a few months ago they published such a law.
The Ukrainian offensive is stalled and it looks like nothing significant will happen before the start of the winter campaign.
I believe that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not advance until next year. For a successful offensive they need long-range missiles and aircraft.
In Crimea, an air raid alert is announced almost every day; Ukraine has inflicted several painful strikes on air bases, air defense systems and headquarters.
That’s the thing, human nature is cruel.
Fuck the morals, let’s go conquer some land and rape some women.
Morals hardly ever trump hormones and instinct, especially when you’re hungry and been fighting for 50 hours straight in the cold and mud, and having had 10 near death experiences with incoming artillery barrages.
Lol, I’m wondering how that interaction with the Wagner neighbor went. Does he know about your website?
For some reason I’m imagining it like: “hey neighbor, look, a Medal for Bravery, why don’t you post this one on your website hahaha”.
Lol anyway.
Apparently he’s not missing a limb or anything, which begs the question, how many of them even die? How many survive, like, what’s the ratio here? Since they’re all apparently having plans for the future, 1-2 years ahead.
From what I’ve seen with the regular army, they’re croaking left and right.
According to quickly-found wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#Total_casualties
“It is curious that this guy’s close people hold liberal and anti-war views, but do not try to influence him.”
Perhaps they’re just virtue-signalling in public, but are sympathizers in secret. Many people do this.
As for the offensive, I asked you recently about it but I dont think you seen the comment. I will copy paste it:
“So how’s the Ukrainian offensive going?
Gen Mark Milley said: “That offensive kicked off about 90 days ago. It has gone slower than the planners anticipated. But that is a difference between what Clausewitz called war on paper and real war. So these are real people in real vehicles that are fighting through real minefields, and there’s real death and destruction, and there’s real friction. And there’s still a reasonable amount of time, probably about 30 to 45 days, worth of fighting weather left.”
This sounds indicative of underachievement. If I remember correctly, you had high hopes for this offensive yourself; forecasting a lot of drastic progress.”
Obviously it’s stalled as you said.
How is Putin doing lately? Seems like business as usual.
Putin has been ignoring his generals and directing the war himself, analysts say — and has been surprisingly cautious
https://news.yahoo.com/putin-ignoring-generals-directing-war-105031283.html
This is how Hitler flunked countless units.
“RAND said that was simply because Putin does not trust those around him — and so makes “little use of economic or military expertise” at his disposal.”
“Western analysts have previously said that Russian military leaders, including Minister of Defence Sergei Shoigu, are likely concealing bad news about the war from Putin because they are increasingly concerned about the consequences for themselves.”
This is a completely savage philosophy unacceptable in the 21st century.
“The neighbor has a great house, I will kill him, rape his wife and take his house for myself.”
Yes, it worked until the end of the 20th century, but now the world is so complex and people are tired of wars. The world will not allow an aggressive war, as we see in the example of the war between Russia and Ukraine. The world helps Ukraine, and Russia becomes a rogue country.
And even if this help is insufficient, still.
This guy came on vacation for a few days. He’s probably already returned. I hope he actually comes back without any body part.
Only my close circle of friends know about this site.
>Perhaps they are just virtue signaling in public, but secretly they sympathize with them.
I have known these people for more than 20 years, they have a negative attitude towards the war and Putin, although their position is passive. They just live, work and raise children.
Right. The Ukrainian offensive somewhat disappointed me; the successes were not as significant as I wanted.
Ukraine is doing a lot for its victory, but lacks military power.
Ukrainian drone attacks on Moscow are no longer a sensation; they are already commonplace.
I told the Ukrainians that people in Russia will begin to understand that this war is unnecessary for them when they run to bomb shelters with children in their hands to escape Ukrainian missiles. They won’t understand otherwise.
I can’t say anything about Putin. He seems to be satisfied with the current situation. The authorities in Russia learn quickly, they have good analysts, they can make forecasts about 3 months in advance.
Something serious is needed to unbalance this system. Explosion of the Crimean Bridge or a massive drone raid with casualties or a terrorist attack.
The Kremlin skillfully circumvents Western sanctions, allowing military enterprises to produce weapons.
In practice, it looks like this: dual-use goods, such as microcircuits for missiles, are purchased from a front company in Kazakhstan.
The cargo is in transit through Russia. Documents are changed at the border and this cargo is already on its way to Russia.
All this has led to more than doubling the cost of logistics, but Russia still receives high-tech goods from the West.
I agree. Especially with education and higher standards of living, people know better. They know how it will mostly work out and don’t want to give up years of their life and potentially lose family or their own lives for literally nothing. Now that we’re living in the best time ever by most metrics, especially luxury.
And it’s a good thing. Aggressive wars are for the primitive barbarians still living in the medieval times as you said, and it’s mostly crybullies who pick on weaker neighbors.
>> “I told the Ukrainians that people in Russia will begin to understand that this war is unnecessary for them when they run to bomb shelters with children in their hands to escape Ukrainian missiles. They won’t understand otherwise.”
True again. The brainwashing has them believe it’s all glorious and noble, until you start feeling the artlilery on your end, then it’s no longer a noble cause. All of a sudden they’re like “hey, they are shooting at civilians, they’re terrorists!” lol. Unfortunately bullies don’t understand until they taste their own medicine.
They should start shelling indiscriminately like Russia does, that will quickly change the % of public support for the war.
Russia has been more dissapointing than Ukraine on the battle front however. The territory is remaining more or less the same that they gained in the first month or two. Kherson, Bakhmut, Kupiansk. Still fighting on the outskirts waiting for Ukraine counteroffensive to gain momentum to put their lights out.
As Gen. Milley said, it’s a real war with real casulties and real friction, real variables. Mind you they have to attack fortified positions now. It’s one thing to halt the enemy advance when you’re in defensive positions. Another to do the inverse. It might as well take some time.
Another critical element: minefields. They’re incredibly effective both on land and sea. Should be war crimes honestly because of kids dying after it’s all said and done, years after the war
The head of VTsIOM Valery Fedorov said in a recent interview that 63-74% of the population welcomes the war in Russia. At the same time, 16-18% are categorically against war.
But something else is surprising. Number of so-called “Ultra-fascists” turned out to be relatively small, 10-15%. These are the people who say that Ukraine should cease to exist as a state.
While Western leaders scratched their eggs and did not give Ukraine weapons, Russia built several lines of defense. It’s not easy for the АFU.
How do they count the “Ultrafascists”? Fringe groups rarely expose their beliefs. You have 70% support for the war. What is the war for? It’s not to help Ukraine certainly.
If it ceases to exist as a state altogether, what percentage of those 70% would think that is good or would be indifferent?
The Western world is morally bereft. It’s not good to be an Ukrainian right now in any case, not just the AFU, at the mercy of Western supplies and Russia’s fanatical whims.
But such is life.
I feel like the end of the war is just around the corner, it can’t sustain for too long because it’s Europe. It’s not Boko Haram in Africa that nobody gives a fuck about.
And the West may step in and stop it at the cost of Ukraine, meaning strongarm both sides into peace talks before Ukraine has a had a chance to retake all the territory. So, they should prepare to lose some land and live with it. But for now, keep fighting whilst they have Western support because they can’t start a war later because they won’t get the same support then. So, keep fighting and get all the revenge out of your system while you can on the Russian prisoners of war they capture.
It’s a terrible situation for Ukraine because, even if they do take the territory back: they still have been tresspassed majorily against, have had their women and children raped, tortured, killed, their homes destroyed, countless people displaced, suffered immense material damage, mental pain, it goes on and on. The Russians however being economically and politically stronger, will likely continue trade with the West after it’s all said and done, and get a relatively better deal out of all of it. Such is the way of the world. If you’re weak, you don’t matter to the big players, they just push you aside.
That’s why every country should push for nukes. It makes the big numbers of manpower and conventional military might near obsolete. And be really prepared to use it too. If I was a leader of a small nation, and some neighbor was behaving like Russia, I would seriously be prepared to do whatever is necessary to protect my people. Many will die on both sides, but that’s way better than just my people dying, and only soldiers dying on their side.
You can then negotiate better with the Western “global peacekepers” too then, because their modus operandi is: appease the bully. Fucking bitch move.
Ukraine, keep fighting and don’t rely entirely on the West. Only on yourself.
They call them more modestly – “War Party”. These are supporters of Strelkov (Girkin), apologists for the philosophy of Dugin and other ultra-fascist publicists.
They consider them based on their belief that if a war has begun, then it is necessary to win.
And there are 10-15% of such people.
Recently, a close friend of mine spoke in the spirit that if your country is at war, and even if it is wrong, then you should still be on the side of your country.
I replied that now I understand how anti-fascists felt in Nazi Germany and why they helped the Allies in the fight against Hitler.
Now more and more opposition political scientists are saying that Ukraine will not be able to defeat Russia without the “5th column” inside Russia.
Moreover, this should be an armed opposition, with murders and terrorist attacks.
But Western democracy is not ready to sponsor terrorism; no one will give money for this.
Ukraine is not ready to share its territories, and while Zelensky is the President of Ukraine, this is unlikely to happen.
The war will last at least another year, according to experts, and I agree with this. Ukraine needs long-range missiles and aircraft to win.
There’s some self-serving pragmatism to their belief. I share their belief more or less. However, if the leaders are idiots and are ruining the military’s and public’s reputation by failing and fighting for immoral reasons, then it’s not really beneficial. The benefit from the little bit of land Russia stands to gain from this is easily trumped by the potential economic developments that could have been made with the military budget wasted into the war so far, much less stressful, and a plethora of other benefits of not being in the whole world’s crosshair.
>> “But Western democracy is not ready to sponsor terrorism; no one will give money for this.”
Maybe not the transparent institutions, but covert ones like the CIA. Question is, do they want to? I think we talked about this already, and the conclusion was: not yet.
>> “Ukraine is not ready to share its territories, and while Zelensky is the President of Ukraine, this is unlikely to happen.”
The West has shown impatience with the delayed counteroffensive and the overall length of the war, and Putin is apparently betting on fading Western support for Ukraine over time, this being part of the strategy.
The West can tell Zelensky: if you don’t do peacetalks; no more supplies. Can they reasonably defend whilst just relying on their domestic arms industry which is probably just artillery shells and artillery guns, excluding small arms here? Not with the same results as now probably.
There is no selfish pragmatism here among these people. There is a selfish pragmatism of officials.
With one hand they support the ultra-fascists, and with the other they bring in crowds of migrants from Central Asia.
You are stepping on a sore spot. From approximately 2004 to 2014, Russia experienced unprecedented economic growth. The IT sector was actively developing; Moscow could have become a second Dubai, but no. These opportunities are missed. They screwed it all up.
Instead of developing their own industry, they began to mercilessly steal, strangle business and spend money on propaganda.
Zelensky will probably resign as president if the West demands negotiations with Russia in the form of an ultimatum.
The West is considering a scenario in which Ukraine loses the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, as well as Crimea.
At the same time, arms supplies to Ukraine continue and I hope for a different scenario.
Yes, we hear more and more often about the creation of military factories in Ukraine, but this is not a matter of one day.
During the German offensive in 1941, military production from the western regions of the USSR was evacuated to the east. It took 6-7 months to start production at the new location.
Probably around this time we should expect a resumption of military equipment production in Ukraine.
The people have to be thinking at least on some level: “I know this war is wrong, I know Putin is full of shit, but I approve of the war anyway, because these are my people, and we are showing the world not to fuck with us”, or other such petty reasons.
Also, “I can’t not support the war because what will the others think of me? That I’m a traitor?”.
Personal reasons such as these.
Alright, here’s the Defense industry for the record.
The Ukraine Defense Industry is mostly in unoccupied territory from what I see.
Now correct me if I’m wrong:
Motor Sich (Airplane – Helicopter Engines) in Zaporizhia is close but not occupied. Apparently shelled a couple times.
Ivchenko-Progress (Aircraft / drone engine design), Zaporizhia again, close but unoccupied
Donetsk State Chemical Products Plant ( Explosives). Occupied and shelled a few times too.
Kherson – heavy fighting / counteroffensive. But mostly steel production, as far as defense goes: naval shipyard. So, nothing too valuable.
Artemivsk (Bakhmut) Machine-Building Plant – Artilllery shells? Either way, it’s Bakhmut.
Pivdenmash in Dnipro, (Aerospace tech, – spacecraft, launch vehicles (rockets), liquid fuel rockets etc,) – unoccupied, but shelled twice with long range cruise missiles last year. Out of comission? Can’t find info.
Now, most importantly the backbone of the defense industry – Kharkov (recaptured but 40km~ from the Russian border and a constant target):
Kharkov Armored Plant – (AFVs: BMPs of all kinds, special purpose equipment: bridge-laying tanks, tracked firing vehicles, tank repair, engine repair, tank modernization) – fucking wrecked 5 days ago. Out of comission for long.
Malyshev Plant – (Tanks: T84, Soviet Era tanks, the very soviet tanks aka BT series), shelled last year and beggining of this year. Out of comission?
Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau – (Tanks: T84, T80UD, APCs: BTRs, Diesel engines) – probably shelled. Can’t find article to confirm but it’s Kharkiv so, odds are it got hit.
Kharkiv State Aviation Manufacturing Enterprise – (airplanes and parts, engines) – Can’t confirm hits.
Kharkiv Machinery Plant “FED” (repair and modernization of equipment for hydraulic, fuel and electrical systems of aviation) – Can’t confirm hits.
Kharkiv Plant of Personal Protective Equipments – (vests, headgear, polymer gun belts, etc) – Cant confirm hits.
So, above I’ve listed all the companies and plants that are occupied / got hit.
The majority of the industry is spread all over Ukraine in free areas. Everything from Aircraft (Antonov in Kiev), Armored vehicles (plants in Kiev, Lyiv, Zhytomyr (shelled but possibly working), etc), advanced electronics in Kiev, Artem rocket and space industry enterprise in Kiev (shelled), firearms (Zbroyar in Kiev), The Shepetivka Mechanical Plant (artillery shells), list goes on.
Not everything is lost, but even if it was all lost, it doesn’t seem to make a difference.
Most important are: drones (Bayraktar TB2), artillery guns and shells, rocket artillery (think HIMARS), and potentially aircraft as you said which will require some advanced logistics and training, and Javelins for AT.
These have proven to be the most valuable pieces of equipment considering how the battles have been unfolding, and much of this is has been supplied by the external agents i.e NATO.
As for strategies, I’m not an expert but, from what I’ve read, Putin has shifted to a war of attrition now, satisfied with merely holding ground, while Ukraine is apparently gearing up for a hail mary counter offensive. This is merely what I’ve read recently.
It all seems so pointless and futile, and such a drain of energy and resources.
But hey, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin are up 3% and 16% respectively, compared to S&P 500 down 1%. lol
“I can’t not support the war because what will the others think of me? That I’m a traitor?”
No, this is not at all in the Russian mentality. At least not in big cities.
Most Russians, both those who support the war and those who do not support it, agree on one idea: “I want this to end as soon as possible.”
By the way, what do you think of the Palestinian attack on the Jews?
Same position I had years ago. It’s good. Kill them. They know and everyone who reads at least a little bit knows that Israel is a terrorist entity. Organ harvesting, shooting pregnant women and mocking them, etc. Israel terrorizes Palestinian civilians every excuse they get.
I don’t like them and I don’t trust them. Biden is approving another 8billion$ aid package for them, on top of the TRILLIONS by now.
They manipulate, lie, they cry in pain as they hit you, subvert. They’ve been expelled and persecuted in almost every host country since time immemorial, all for good reason. God I hate kikes.
As far as I understand correctly, the history of this conflict occurred due to the fact that the British colonial administration promised the Jews, Jordanians and Palestinians to create a separate state.
The Jordanians received statehood, and so did the Jews. But the Palestinians did not receive it.
The Palestinians did not like this, especially since Jews from other countries began to come to Israel. Mutual attacks and terrorist attacks began, which ultimately led to the current situation.
You can judge me, but in this special Olympics between chocks and Jews, I am on the side of the Jews.
About hamas attacking Kike-Israel, the KIKES always begin from the position of being the eternal victim, the other side always the irrational hater. Locked in this narrative they are incapable of learning anything from history. Can not learn anything about other peoples. And they cannot learn anything about themselves. This fear and hate generating method serves as an externalization of responsibility and as a means to keep the cult together. It’s not a people and cult built on love, it’s built on hate for the other, and they don’t even rule their own people with love but by spreading hate and fear to them. To stay unified, they have to psychologically brainwash each new generation of Jews.
Now they’re also brainwashing the world. Jews disseminate porn, dominate the Federal Reserve, control Hollywood and almost all media. Their victory is devastating.
Now they are getting what they deserve. Even though, I don’t like muslims but them killing the kikes gives me satisfaction.
But this is true. For centuries, Jews were persecuted.
First in Spain, then in France, then in Germany during the 3rd Reich, then the Arabs tried to destroy them.
Your reasoning is typical Nazi propaganda. I do not support racial theories and do not believe that one nation is worse than another. It all depends on the conditions and mentality.
I have already given this example: ok, take a Jewish boy and raise him in a Christian environment. You will not find a trace of Jewry there.
The rest is 99.9% pure conspiracy theory, and the large number of Jews in the media, porn industry and financial systems is quite explainable by the desire to make money.
@final-solution
I was thinking about who might be aiding Hamas in this war but to be blunt, I think its another staged event to give reason so the U.S government and allied central banks to inflate and prop up crude oil. Brics nations are dumping dollars and the petro dollar is loosing its credibility.
@ICH BIN EIN NAZI
I think that the “victim mindset” isn’t a real mindset but rather just a weapon. They play the victim card every time they get ousted or “noticed”. Because it works for some reason. The people are pussies today and they think being weak is a virtue. Yes, we persecuted the kikes in WW2, I’d gladly do it again with pleasure. What is there to apologize for? I’d genocide any race that dares step to mine.
Another thing to keep in mind is: these people are manipulators. It could well be staged because and a false flag again, but I don’t want to jump to conclusions yet. Keep in mind: the white kikes in the USA exclaim white-genocide views and policies on Twitter, portraying themselves as white. The sand-nigger kikes portray themselves as muslims and do falseflags that way: 9/11 for example, the dancing isrealis, and Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi – the former leader of ISIS for fuck sake, yes, his real name is Simon Elliot and he was a Mossad agent, just like the five dancing israelis who were “let go” after it was all said and done.
This is a type of black propaganda – form of propaganda intended to create the impression that it was created by those it is supposed to discredit. Black propaganda contrasts with gray propaganda, which does not identify its source, as well as white propaganda, which does not disguise its origins at all. It is typically used to vilify or embarrass the enemy through misrepresentation.
It’s a pathetic maggot tactic that a man with a spine would never resort to, but has to be aware that the kikes and other spineless maggots will surely exploit such tactics.
9/11 was a falseflag and a “Pearl Harbour 2.0” event as they called it, to get the US to come in and destabilize their neighbors even more by bombing the living shit out of them. If this turns out to be another call to war for America, it wouldn’t be surprising at all, in fact I’m betting on it. And while I’m not a terrible fan of muslims either, I sympathize with them a lot because they know a snake in the grass when they see one and they aren’t afraid to oppose Israel and call them out for what they are.
@Sonderfuhrer
>> “The rest is 99.9% pure conspiracy theory, and the large number of Jews in the media, porn industry and financial systems is quite explainable by the desire to make money.”
Define ‘conspiracy theory’ please.
It’s the same type of logic and reasoning and proofing done with everything else, but because the jews are the subject all of a sudden it’s a ‘conspiracy theory’.
Because it’s done by “nazis” it should be dismissed as bullshit? They openly and covertly advocate for white genocide.
Mind you, a great amount of people realize what the jews are. Even former great presidents and world leaders. How can you side with the jews after all the material I brought against them on this very site? Do you dismiss it as lies? Fabrication?
You’re saying a jew raised as a christian won’t be a jew.
Of course he won’t. We’re not talking about “race” here either. It’s simply: a great amount of jews is in positions of power in the US and Western Europe and are working towards our destruction. I have provided quotes of them literally saying this out loud. I mean, what is there to deny?
I also said before, it’s not all the jews, but who gives a fuck if they all die? Say, a higher power decides to flip a coin, and kill you or some random person in the middle east. Would you rather that you die or the other person?
A conspiracy theory is a theory that confuses cause and effect relationships.
In relation to Jews, you say: “Jews are bad because… (they have taken over the financial sector in my country, they drink the blood of babies, they own the media).”
I say: “Look for money.”
When you find money and those who benefit from this or that event, you will understand that conspiracy theories are not worth a damn.
In the world of profit, it doesn’t matter what nationality you are. I saw it with my own eyes.
Business paradigm: I don’t care what nationality you are, even if you’re a black fagot, but you bring me money, which means you’re useful to me.
What theories are we talking about? Let’s look at the world pragmatically.
Ok, the Jews are out to destroy humanity? WTF? But who will then work for the Jews?
No, the world has been in pieces for a long time, and the conflict between Jews and Arabs is understandable, and this is the fault of British policy in the Middle East in the 20th century.
Now the lumps and Jews are threshing each other.
For it to be just about money is naive and short-sighted with all due respect. I know what you mean but I don’t think you follow the US scene too much. If you did, you would perhaps have a different outlook. Look up “Kalergi plan”. They openly talk about it how Europe must become multicultural which subsequently will lead to our extinction.
>> “In the world of profit, it doesn’t matter what nationality you are. I saw it with my own eyes.”
I’m certain this is how it is in the business world, at least in the serious ranks. However, these people already have money, they already have power, now, they’re just exercising it. Money is not a factor for then anymore, they are looking for more than that.
>> “Ok, the Jews are out to destroy humanity?”
Right now, they want the white race gone, that much is clear. After that, who knows. I dont think they want to destroy humanity, but, why have they been expelled from so many states if they were so innocent? They manipulate, infiltrate host countries, subvert, it’s been proven so many times ye objections can be raised else you’re a “Nazi” or an anti-semite, and God forbid you are one. I mean, those are the worst things on the planet right now.
Not at all. I have already mentioned that I have been involved in private investigations for more than 10 years. And I make such conclusions based on personal experience and the experience of my colleagues.
The motives for any crime are money or feelings (hate or love).
The motives of hooliganism and the motives of sexual crimes stand a little apart.
All! There are no other motives.
Based on this, we explore the causes of a particular event or consider a conspiracy theory.
And then discrepancies emerge -)
People who live by making money want only one thing – more money. It’s such a vicious circle. I’ve met such people.
>>Right now they want the white race to disappear, that’s clear.
For what? People are exactly the same resource as oil and gas. Ok, let’s destroy all deposits of oil, gas, coal, diamonds and guano.
WTF? Well, who will work for the Jews then?
I think I already said this. For example, in Germany in the 30s there were 8 million Jews living and these guys were by no means good boys.
You’ve probably read Mein Kampf. Adolf Hitler describes the situation in Austria perfectly.
Agree that when the burgomaster is Jewish, the mayor of a city is Jewish, key positions in the administration are occupied by Jews, Jews are in the media and Jews are in business, this can cause discontent.
What can we talk about if, over hundreds of years of wandering, Jews forgot Hebrew and began to speak Yiddish – a language they themselves invented.
The situation so developed that the Jews in the 3rd Reich turned out to be “guilty” of all its problems.
But look at the modern world. Any dictator, from Putin to the African Mumba-Yumba, blames anyone for his problems, but not himself and his entourage.
For them, the Americans, the Anglo-Saxons, the West, Europe are to blame for everything, but not them.
It’s just that blaming Jews has become inconvenient; now there are other objects of accusation. In the 19th and 20th centuries this was easier.
Returning to the issue of blaming Jews for all of humanity’s problems – just reconsider conspiracy theories from the point of view that I mentioned above.
Alright, so the motive is in the category of feelings, specifically: hate.
There, our mystery solved.
As I said, they have a lot of fucking money. They’re in every wealthy sector + politics + federal reserve of the US. Israel gets trillions from the US for nothing. Ever heard of the Rotschilds, Rockefellers, Soros? I’m sure you have.
“>> >>Right now they want the white race to disappear, that’s clear.
For what? People are exactly the same resource as oil and gas. Ok, let’s destroy all deposits of oil, gas, coal, diamonds and guano.”
I don’t know why. They hate us? See us as a threat? I mean, look at the culmination of our resentment in WW2. They cheated extinction by the skin of their teeth.
They are our enemy and as I said a million times, they openly say this out loud. That is the supporting evidence for my theory here. On top of their obvious track record through out the years. Many people are shit, but they are specially vile and condescending in a specific way.
I’m not blaming only the Jews. Everyone of us who works with them or sympathizes with them or is their puppet from the political scene to corporate, is also clearly working against us.
I mean, they’re our fucking enemy, why are you surprised that I’m against them and hate them? What do I have to lose if Israel got bombed to smitherines? How does this negatively affect me that I go out to defend them?
More curiously, why would you defend them? What do you have to gain from that really?
If you adopt my views, and hypothetically we solve this problem: we all win.
If you adopt my views and they turn out to be false, and hypothetically we manage to genocide them, you lose what? Nothing. You’re not a jew and/or you’re not in Israel, so what do you care?
Hatred? But why would they hate us? Besides, in order to take revenge on someone you also need money and a lot of money.
Yes, the Mossad hunted down Nazi criminals for many decades, but the Mossad does not take revenge on the rest of the Germans. And now Jews feel great in Germany. And the Germans go to Israel. And the descendants of those who killed Jews in gas chambers get along well with those whose relatives were killed in these gas chambers.
I reason like this: if I hate someone so much that I wish him harm, I must take revenge on him. Believe me, there was a situation in my life when, out of hatred, I was ready to spend a very large sum to make a person disabled. And I had the resources for this. But I didn’t take this step, not because I began to hate my enemy less, but because I decided to spend this money on rebuilding my life. And it was a success.
This is how I see the behavior of the Israelis – instead of spending money on some kind of worthless revenge, they raised the standard of living in their country.
My life’s path crossed many times with Jews; for several years I worked in a company and sat in the same office with a Jewish girl, a purebred Jew, who even managed to serve in the Israeli army.
I was involved in dangerous sports and there were Jews in our team, and many times my life depended on their behavior.
I didn’t see anything bad from these people! There was not an ounce of hatred in them. Yes, sometimes they were a little depressed because of their nationality, but that’s all.
In my country, three very famous characters, patriots of Russia, are Jews. These are great guys, smart, courageous, they oppose themselves to the Russian authorities and fight Putin.
And again, I don’t see hatred in them.
Please understand that I am not trying to defend Jews at all, but I do not agree with conspiracy theories about Jews. You can hate Jews, that’s everyone’s right, but why base your hatred on the fantasies of conspiracy theorists?
My position on this issue is this: I’m not saying that %name_nation% is bad, I just want to live separately from you.
But I live in Russia, and this is a multinational country. And I have to communicate with representatives of other nationalities. Among them there are excellent guys, smart, kind, honest. And there are also smelly fuckers. The same as in any other nationality.
And I would be glad to live separately from all of them, but life sets other priorities.
By the way, here’s an observation: nationalism ends where people of different nationalities make money together.
Yes, that’s right, in this situation I sympathize with the Jews, because I don’t like it when Jewish children’s heads are cut off, women are raped and men are killed. It seems to me that empathy should not depend on nationality.
Maybe if Jews invaded Gaza and started raping women and killing babies, I would sympathize with the Palestinians.
I respect your views, but this does not mean that I will share them.
PS:
The lieutenant wakes up in the morning with a hangover, his clothes covered in vomit. His orderly is standing nearby. The lieutenant makes excuses:
– Can you imagine, Semyon, yesterday at a party the young cornet got so drunk that he vomited all over my jacket!
– Your Honor! This drunk cornet not only puked in your jacket, this cornet also shit in your trousers!
What I mean is that you shouldn’t shift responsibility for your personal failures. “It’s not me who’s a motherfucker, it’s not my motherfucker’s government that’s leading the country into the abyss. It’s all the fault of (Negros, Jews, Anglo-Saxons).” Underline whatever applicable.
>> Maybe if Jews invaded Gaza and started raping women and killing babies, I would sympathize with the Palestinians.
They are. This has been happening for a long time.
>> Yes, that’s right, in this situation I sympathize with the Jews, because I don’t like it when Jewish children’s heads are cut off, women are raped and men are killed. It seems to me that empathy should not depend on nationality.
In this situation I sympathize with the Palestinians, because I don’t like it when Palestinian kids organs are harvested, pregnant women are shot and mocked and even t-shirts are made: “1 shot 2 kills”, Palestinian women are raped by IDF soldiers, homes are bulldozed, mass persecution akin to genocide, every war crime under the sun.
Also, no proof of the children beheading. You take lies with no proof as truth, but dismiss literal proof and literal quotes by jews themselves as “conspiracy theories”.
>> What I mean is that you shouldn’t shift responsibility for your personal failures.
I’m not shifting blame. I am noticing and calling out the spies and infiltrators. Big difference.
I understand perfectly well where dead babies come from in Palestine. This scenario is always the same: first the terrorists strike Israel, then Israel strikes back.
After this, a Palestinian appears shaking a dead baby, appealing to the public and telling how terrible these Jews are.
And recent events are clear proof of this.
Not only that, right now I’m looking at photos of dead Palestinian babies. The script hasn’t changed.
Yeah, Palestinian children are being harvested for their organs by evil Mossad agents. This is roughly what I hear from Russian propaganda about Ukrainians.
But for some reason, no one realizes that transplantology is an extremely complex medical science and simply removing a kidney from a living person will not be able to quickly attach it. And when you become familiar with this subject, at least in general terms, all this nonsense about “field transplantology” will become clear to you.
As for rape and other atrocities, they are always present in war on both sides of the conflict. We are seeing this right now. And I do not rule out a situation where Israeli soldiers rape a Palestinian woman. Moreover, the situation may be the opposite.
I do not accept lies as truth, but the media talk about it and the Israeli leadership confirms it. Perhaps documentary evidence will appear later.
You are listening to conspiracy theorists, and conspiracy theorists are one of the pillars of propaganda, when the government is looking for enemies in its own failures.
In my country, the British and Americans, and indeed all Europeans, were declared enemies. And when I listen to the speeches of high-ranking Russian officials, I think: “Hey, guy! What are you talking about! The Dulles Plan? The Protocols of the Elders of Zion? The Book of Veles? America wants to destroy us? You’re fucking delusional! The USA saved our country three times, Europe sent us food and medicines, they could have taken us with their bare hands. Is England crap? WTF!”
It is always easy to blame a third party for failures, but not admit to your own mistakes.
I hope you’re right that it is indeed a conspiracy theory and I’m just making a mountain out of a molehill, however, there’s a vast global follower base who are constantly finding contradictions in the mainstream and I myself have thought of them as nutty conspiracy theories until I’ve seen kikes themselves confirm them.
It’s not our governments who are pushing these theories, rather the people themselves.
The officials are mostly bought puppets, or powerless subordinates of puppets.
>> It is always easy to blame a third party for failures, but not admit to your own mistakes.
You keep saying this, so what mistakes exactly are you referring to?
I believe you that the Russian cadre of Putinists or their predecessors probably do push all sorts of theories to the people. However, one reason could be the fact that Russia isn’t really an English speaking country. English isn’t too widespread and when people only know their native language and live in their own little bubbles, it’s easy for potential propagandists to disseminate their own material to the masses, with less fear of clashing with fact-checking and global mainstream views, especially if it’s the state.
What do you think of Stormfront? It has 400,000~ members.
This is a common psychological problem among people.
Look. First, a person looks for the cause of any events. And then he comes across a conspiracy theory that misleads by confusing cause-and-effect relationships.
The person says to himself: Oh look, this explains everything. It’s not us who are bad, it’s the bad %nazi-name% (Arabs, Negros, Jews, English).
And the usual substitution reaction occurs; any psychologist will explain this effect.
Then other facts are manipulated to fit the conspiracy theory. This is exactly what you call inconsistencies in the mainstream.
And now there are already 400,000 followers of nationalist ideas on Stormfront.
I don’t see anything wrong with normal, healthy nationalism. Any representative of any nation can say “Look, our nation gave the world ….”.
And he will be right.
Einstein was a Jew, Pele was a Brazilian, Muhammad Ali was a negro.
However, in the ideas of racism and nationalism there is something that can never become an idea that unites people – hatred.
You cannot unite around hatred; there must be another idea – the idea of creation.
Let me explain using the example of the Russian opposition.
They say: “We hate Putin and Putin’s power, but we are ready to build a new Russia of the future.”
And these guys offer viable models, unlike the nationalists and racists.
The nationalist idea must be constructive.
A normal, sensible politician in your country should not say, “We will kill all Arabs Negros.”
He should say: “We will stop the flow of migrants, we will create a system of segregation in which migrants will become uncomfortable in our country.”
This is the difference between healthy nationalism and unhealthy one.
Returning to Stormfront, I am sure that the same thing will happen to me there as in the pro-Russian publics.
First, the local public’s ass will start to burn, then they will declare me a Jew, and then block me forever.
People whose critical thinking has stopped cannot be productive, they are counterproductive.
Also, forgot to attach this:
The way I see it: humans are tribal animals. We organize ourselves in tribal groups and we see “us” and “them”.
Among the various criteria that drive this division, race is often one of the most significant factors, if not THE most fundamental one. Class is a significant one, as well as ideology / religion. But, race is one of the most primal ones.
You can see it in other races quite frequently. Walk around the others and in random situations, they will side with their own people rather than with you.
This is not hard to notice. It’s in our nature to identify and be suspicious of the “outsiders” and have a sense of trust amonst our own kind.
Now, as our birth rates are decreasing, the shitskins are taking up a higher percentage of our demographics.
I am advocating for xenophobic and nationalist policies, just like other countries do but don’t get crucified for.
Japan does this, China, North Korea, African countries, etc.
We don’t have to kill them, fine, but why does this bother you anyway? What if I kill a nigger? I’m still allied with you, I am pushing for protectionist policies that me and you will benefit from. Why are you fighting me? White people are the only people who side with the enemy against their own people. I really don’t understand this.
So, back to the topic: the countries I listed above, they are practicing ‘healthy nationalism’, but if we did that, we’d be called racist. “Europe becoming fascist again”, “Right-wing nationalism on the rise in Europe!”, etc etc.
Now, personally, I don’t care, but many people will shudder at the thought of being called nationalist or racist. It’s like the worst insult to them, where they will go to extreme lengths to be tolerant liberals at the expensive of their own people and families.
You say people can’t unite around hatred. This is debatable, but alright, let’s assume you’re right.
Let’s unite around safety and fostering a safe homogenous living space for ourselves (Whites everywhere). Essentially our very own continents that we live on.
Here, I’m a healthy nationalist now, and playing fair, according to you. Are we good now?
Let’s extradite the shitskins back to their lands, make a case for Europeans not owing anyone anything anymore after all the reparations, stating how we are in demographic decline and that we deserve the same self-sovereignty as everyone else. What do you think the responses would be to this? The biggest pushback would be from our very own people. Why? I really don’t know. It’s in our own best interest, but yet we don’t do it. It’s as if the leaders are puppets of the kikes. Otherwise criticism of jews would be allowed in mainstream media. This is a big proof of what I’m saying. You can make fun of other races and religions on Twitter, but not of jews. Someone tested their hate-speech algorithm, you can look it up. Isn’t that peculiar? Even if it’s not kikes who are abusing their political power for their own good, fine, they still get expelled out of Europe, and no more trillions of dollars to Israel. I am still playing by your rules here. Since apparently your problem with my earlier proposals was a practical one, rather than a moral one. You don’t care that people die, you’re just concerned with the fact that it’s hard to rally people around hatred for someone? Am I wrong here?
>> Returning to Stormfront, I am sure that the same thing will happen to me there as in the pro-Russian publics.
As I said before, I do somewhat agree with the primitive nationalist sentiment you brought up earlier that people should support their nation even if it’s doing wrong, and I do find it interesting on some level that you are opposing Russia the way you are. You are denouncing Putin, that is understandable, but you also expose the common people and their suboptimal ways, when you could have not done this on the global stage. What exactly do you gain by exposing your own people like this to people who aren’t Russian? If you wanted to elevate the common Russian’s status and educate him, you would expose them to themselves, and not globally. At the end of the day, you’re Russian, and your people is all you have. Other people won’t accept you because you’re not them. Others will probably just rejoice at the state of Russia after you show them. What are your thoughts on this? I’m trying to understand your philosophy on this issue.
Now, you are slavic – a Russian, you are an atheist, so why do you have a dillema about genocide anyway? Extreme measure, but asking hypothetically. If there was a button to get rid of a whole race or nation, why would you care if we pressed it? Nobody you know or love would get hurt. Only potential enemies. I asked you this earlier but I didn’t get an answer so I’m asking again.
You are trying to prepare the basis for nationalist ideas based on a false historical premise – my tribe, my clan, my nation, my race.
But in ancient times, the definition of friend or foe was based on a simple principle: if you didn’t come to rob, then you were a decent person.
One day, Russian leaders invited a Viking to reign because they could not agree among themselves. This gave rise to the Russian royal dynasty of the Ruriks.
Sorry, but the Vikings were completely alien from your point of view. And if you remember the African slave empires when negros caught negros and sold them to whites and Arabs, then your reasoning cannot at all serve as the cornerstone of a nationalist idea.
I repeat, in those days it didn’t matter what race or nationality you were, and if you came to trade and not to rob, then you already belonged.
If you kill a negro just like that, for the sake of pleasure this will cause my condemnation. However, not only mine. But if you kill the negro man who tried to rob you, I will give you a standing ovation.
I agree with you that whites would benefit from segregation, but the realities are somewhat different and it is one thing to propose ideas of segregation, another thing to try to implement them.
The world is too diverse to immediately label it as an enemy and divide it into black and white. There are many other shades.
As for the question of why whites oppose whites and defend blacks, I call this what in Russia they call “being mad from a lot of fat.”
Whites robbed Asia and Africa for 300 years with a 300% profit and abandoned their robberies only when it was no longer profitable. After which the whites tried to give the blacks what are called “European values.” But just yesterday these guys were jumping from palm tree to palm tree and throwing coconuts at the whites. Now they are throwing grenades.
The standard of living in Africa and Europe is incomparable. I believe that the whites needlessly left Africa to stew in its own juice, but nothing can be done because for the white European, profit is more important.
Now imagine, a distant descendant of a white conqueror looks at the fact that, excuse me, but I will say in memes, blacks in Africa are malnourished.
“God, what have we whites done!” – he thinks and joins BLM.
Well, that is, if this dude’s standard of living were the same as in Africa, these ideas would not have occurred to him.
I say that uniting on the basis of hatred is futile because I have already participated in such an event. Everyone squabbled among themselves even before this led to any constructive steps.
Twitter has quite strange rules; recently my account was blocked for anti-communist statements -).
Regarding the Jews, probably the fact that the small people spread throughout the world makes them similar to the Templars and their later imitators, the Freemasons, with their supranational ideas.
I see it this way: there are problems in Israel and the UN can make a decision that is not beneficial to Israel. Representatives of Russia, Germany and the USA (for example) are in favor of this.
Oh, we must, we must make sure that this decision does not exist. Oh, and who in Russia, Germany and the USA can influence this? Oh yes, Moses, Solomon and Jacob. These guys are close to the presidents of these countries and can exert influence. Let’s connect with Moses, Solomon and Jacob!
Maybe Moses, Solomon and Jacob will influence UN decisions, maybe not.
But all this allows us to say that the %president-name% is a puppet of the Jews.
You are wrong because you do not offer real constructive solutions. Yes, people die. People are dying all over the world. One day you will die, one day I will die.
Actually, you and I have already united because we are carefully discussing very serious problems of humanity. Perhaps you and I are already influencing someone’s consciousness, this happens quite often.
It was not me who said this, but my close friend. I fundamentally disagree with him. Imagine what would happen if German anti-fascists held the same opinion – If Hitler kills Europeans and Russians, then we should be on his side?
I am afraid that in this case the war would have lasted not 6 years, but much longer.
So that you understand correctly, there is not a single family in Russia that does not have relatives of those killed in BB2 or relatives who died from Stalin’s repressions. I have both, and that’s why I don’t accept the idea of genocide. But segregation is quite acceptable and corresponds to my idea of separation.
As for the button, no. This makes no sense. They have already tried to destroy peoples, but this did not lead to anything good. Even in theory, such a mechanism does not exist, and empty fantasies are best left to pimply teenagers.
There are quite a lot of people like me in Russia. Maybe not everyone is as right-wing as I am, but there are many of them. I recently cited these figures.
We say this – Russia without Putin. Russia without corruption. We will carry out judicial reform, we will carry out police reform, we will carry out constitutional reform, we will introduce a parliamentary form of government so that no one person will ever have the concentration of all power.
We will allow free secession from Russia through referendums. If you like to fuck donkeys in the mountains – please. Hold a referendum and get the fuck out of Russia.
I think this is quite constructive.
Racial unity: I guess my outlook is leans towards conservatism, because if anyone agrees with this, it’s other conservatives. Or ultranationalists. Clearly there are libertarians that don’t see color.
Psychologists have studied personality traits and how they link to a person’s affinity for a certain political side.
Well look, you have one instance, that’s alright. What about China? What about Japan? Look at the US and all it’s fuckups. Look at what Europe is becoming. Race-mixing just doesn’t seem to work out. It looks like it does on the surface but there seems to be a deep underlying tension always.
>> “As for the question of why whites oppose whites and defend blacks, I call this what in Russia they call “being mad from a lot of fat.” ”
You’re saying life is so easy in the West that people have the luxury to worry about shit like this?
If so, I agree with you here. The richer the West has gotten over the years, the more backwards it became. The wealth is a blessing and a curse. And this is huge part of the reason for the low birth rates too. A high correlation between development and low birth rates.
>> “Maybe Moses, Solomon and Jacob will influence UN decisions, maybe not.
But all this allows us to say that the %president-name% is a puppet of the Jews.
You are wrong because you do not offer real constructive solutions. Yes, people die. People are dying all over the world. One day you will die, one day I will die.”
Well, I am first of all identifying potential sources of trouble with you here. We are trying to see whether we even agree on fundamental issues, before we can discuss problem solving. Right now I’m just trying to see if we’re on the same page.
As for practical solutions: well, what can really be done meaningfully that doesn’t include swaying the political sector? You need officials, you need presidents, you need the government and you need the people.
The jews understand this and this is why they gravitate towards these positions. Just look how powerful mass media is. The West is clearly against Palestine here despite their much higher casualty ride including children / civilians. The kikes are dancing and celebrating “Gaza is a cemetary, no more children” “You’re an extinct species”. They won’t show this on the mainstream news. Twitter is where you can see the true nature of this vile scum.
So, I guess the strategy is: expell the kikes thus removing the cancer from the body, and let it heal.
No, the kikes are not responsible for 100% of the things that will be listed below. Yes, we are to blame for a lot of it. However, they still must be removed because they’re our enemy. How? Good question. A more viable option is to educate the masses and simly have a shift in ideolology. Encourage pro-white beliefs and way of living. Foster unapologetic pride and nationalism, rather than guilt and shame. How? Mass media is a good instrument for this. Events, what have you.
Playing politics with them would probably fail due to our bought off and blackmailed politicians. Thus drastic measures need to be taken. That’s the thing, there is no nice level-headed way about this. Violence gets shit done and that’s the way of the world.
Try to help out the LGBTQ who fucked themselves up with hormones. Remove pornography, encourage a healthy way of living with healthy monogamous relationships.
The people need to be white nationalists. They need to put nation first. Even race first. Because that’s how the enemy is operating, whether you and I want it or not.
Just like other nations wouldn’t let in countless millions of Europeans into their country as refugees, we do the same thing and shut the borders. Expell the nonwhites.
This is a huge laundry list and it’s only highlighting how fucking sick the West has become.
The people need to be led like cattle. You can’t rely on them to govern themselves. So, cut back on the vices: alcohol, cigarettes, especially hard drugs, pornography, gambling, etc. Let them complain for a bit, the outcome is an immense net-positive: a much healthier society.
Definitely prohibit “gender-transitioning”. Ban abortions except special cases. Mandatory military service. Death penalties for murder, rape, child abuse.
Most important is: teach people that it’s ok to be white, demonize the shitskins and kikes. People learn what’s what once their own family gets hurt. So one thing is simply do nothing. Let this whole situation play out and see where it gets them, then perhaps they learn. Or simply expose the kikes: quotes or video evidence of them being not so nice. People can’t rationalize away what their own eyes have seen.
I’m simply writing here what comes to mind. All these things would be a positive for the white people, even if many wouldn’t think so. We know how societies have run before. We know what worked for a long time and how they looked when they had a similar social structure, and we definitely now see how the West is doing and where it’s going with the current degenerate policies it has. There’s no debate on a lot of these points really. Alcohol for instance is bad no matter how you spin it.
>> “It was not me who said this, but my close friend. I fundamentally disagree with him”
I know. I know it’s not you who wrote it. I agree with that person, more or less, not absolutely however.
It depends really on the situation.
>> “I have both, and that’s why I don’t accept the idea of genocide.”
But WW2 wasn’t a “genocide” attempted by the Soviets. It was a massive war started by another nation and of course people died.
As for Stalin’s Great Purge, you make a good point.
I just removed a couple of sentences and I’m rewriting this paragraph because as I’m writing this I’m realizing that genocide isn’t really a realistic solution for the external undesirables let alone the internal ones so there’s no point in discussing it.
To solve the nigger crime and crime in general, simply amp up the policing and increase the sentencing.
As you said, making life uncomfortable and forcing them out of the nation is the most cost effective. Segregate until then.
As for the jews: simply get a hold of the masses. Social / political awareness, take their victim privilege card away and change their status from victim to manipulators. The common man is an emotional little baby and he dare not step over any feet in achieving the ultimate goal, so, we have to speak the common man’s language and do assymetric ideology war and assymetric politics.
Since they hold mass media, engage them on their very own mass media outlets but with different tactics. Expose them, and even play the victim when they call us out as racists or white nationalists. Bring up stats that showcase who the real victim of whose subversion is. Main thing is: easy consumable material, such as videos, images with quotes, statistic graphs, charts, graphic images that trigger the reptilian brain, so on.
This will all lead to nothing however. Because lets say everyone knew what the jews were up to. What’s next?
Call for a witch hunt. You still need violence to get the job done.
Perhaps you’ll say that it’s not the jews doing this, well look: is it the whites that enjoy seeing our countries get flooded with shitskins like this? What “money” is there to be gained from this? Other than the money from lobbyists and bribes ( kikes ). What money is there to be made from legalization of transition-surgeries if not from the same people? So you’re right, it is money. Look up the Federal reserve.
If it’s not the jews, you still need to drag the politicians out.
My measures may seem extreme at times, even to me, but I know that whatever we’re doing now isn’t working.
OR: we accept the status quo. We say, it’s all good. Transition surgeries are fine, they just popped out of nowhere. All the vices, hyper-sexualization, evils of society, forced diversity, promotion of immorality, those are all just natural byproducts of the modern social development. Nobody’s fault, and we should do nothing. Let it play out. And die out.
>> “As for the button, no. This makes no sense. They have already tried to destroy peoples, but this did not lead to anything good. Even in theory, such a mechanism does not exist, and empty fantasies are best left to pimply teenagers.”
The point of the question was: what moral qualms do you have about some random people dying? Why do you care?
>> “We say this – Russia without Putin. Russia without corruption. We will carry out judicial reform, we will carry out police reform, we will carry out constitutional reform, we will introduce a parliamentary form of government so that no one person will ever have the concentration of all power.”
So it’s the governmental structure that allowed Putin to cede power? Are you sure that if once you accomplish your set out goals, that another oligarch won’t slither his way up in a Machiavellian strongman fashion?
Also proof they’re puppets:
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You might be interested.
Jewish pogroms took place in Dagestan.
At first, there was a rumor on Telegram channels that Jewish refugees were moving into the hotel.
The hotel was almost destroyed, but these turned out to be just rumors.
Then a Telegram channel controlled by former Russian deputy Ilya Ponomarev, who fled Russia to Ukraine, spread a rumor that Israeli refugees were arriving at Makhachkala airport on a flight from Tel Aviv.
Then an angry crowd of Dagestanis stormed the airport building.
There were only a few Israeli citizens on board the flight from Tel Aviv, the rest were returning home.
It was a miracle they weren’t killed.
Passengers on the flight from Tel Aviv were evacuated by military helicopter.
Several people were taken to the hospital.
But that’s not all.
Leading Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov (Jew) will head the anti-Zionist committee.
Propagandist Yakov Kedmi (Jew) was also invited to it, but he refused to participate.
The Republic of Dagestan was presented by Russian propaganda almost as a second Dubai. A paradise for tourists.
Now videos from Dagestanis who do not rent out rooms in private hotels to Jews are being circulated on social networks.
I look with fascination at this clownery, a product of hatred spread by Russian propaganda.
I saw this as soon as it happened, they were all over the airport.
Vladimir Solovyov, what more can you say about him?
And why did Yakov Kedmi refuse to participate in the anti-Zionist committee?
Here is something I found interesting too:
“Netanyahu’s police brutality beating up Jews in Jerusalem for opposing his barbaric war in Gaza!”
Apparently many Jews are anti-Zionist.
Those people I have no problem with and in fact can be good friends with.
Certain Hasidic sects oppose Zionism because of the belief that the creation of Israel should be a messianic event, not a human / manmade one.
It’s very clear that the occupation of Palestine / Gaza and the persecution and oppression of these people is unjust. Nobody can really argue against that and whoever does is just a fascist. A word they love to throw around at others.
The most humane thing to do here is clear: stop the war and give aid to the affected civilians. And perhaps try to live in peace.
Netanyahu is a terrorist, corrupt politician, a fascist.
He even terrorizes his own people.
The guy has nothing to do with Judaism.
Unfortunately many Jews, especially the older generations are Zionist because of a lingering psychological perception of threat.
They do indeed get persecuted everywhere due to the host people’s own perception of threat and what not – which they shouldn’t.
The IDF are also zealous loyalists to the regime / idea.
So it’s basically 2 sides – both scared and misunderstanding the other, and the innocent civilians of both sides in between that are caught in the crossfire.
And to clarify further: Those who want to create a land at the expense of another people by invading and displacing them are the bad people.
One has to be clear when throwing the word Zionist around too.
“Holding a favorable view of Israel” is a broad criterion which gets us nowhere.
Same as “Do Jews deserve a homeland that is Israel?”.
It all depends.
Oppression is oppression and the ends never justify the means.
Here’s an excellent article:
“A Lot More Jews Are Anti-Zionists Than You Think”
Solovyov is a disgusting character in Russian propaganda, a greedy, vile sycophant.
We can say that this is a stronghold of Putin’s propaganda.
He hosts a political talk show where idiots compete in idiocy.
Solovyov’s show regular Yakov Kedmi.
It must be assumed that Kedmi refused the offer because he himself is a Zionist, and his joining the anti-Zionist committee would have deprived him of certain preferences in Israel.
As far as I know, leftist sentiments are strong in Israel, I am not surprised.
Those. When Jordan annexed the West Bank, was it not an occupation?
My understanding is that Israel simply has no choice. The British Empire deceived the Palestinians. They said that Jews, Jordanians and Palestinians would have their own states. But the Palestinians did not get a state, and when Jews began to arrive en masse in Israel, this caused discontent among the Palestinians, and then among all Arabs.
The rest of the story is known to everyone.
And what should the Jews do if practically the entire Arab world is against them and their dwarf state?
At the same time, the Palestinians say that they will throw everyone into the sea, and it doesn’t matter who it is – Jews, French or British.
They believe that the entire land of Israel should belong to the Arabs.
I don’t see any solution here, unless all Jews en masse convert to Islam -)
So what does Solovyov say about Israel since he’s an anti-Zionist? I’m assuming he’s not very popular not because of that but because his stances on Russian contemporary issues?
Jordan annexation: Yes, I assume it was.
I’m also seeing that there really is no solution here, not a moral/ethical one at least.
The Brits did fuck up somewhat, but to be fair, even without them it would be a powder keg.
Both sides have had national aspirations even before all that drama with the Mandates and Belfour Declaration.
Either reconcile: which won’t happen ever, most likely.
Or take the war to it’s conclusion which is usually just tragic.
However, the Jews aren’t doing themselves any favors here. If they displace the Palestinians, it will only increase the Arabs in their contempt of them and the already existing tensions will be turned up a notch.
Back in the infancy of Zionism, there were debates and arguements about how the Jewish diaspora should just stay in their respective lands and assimilate, or perhaps settle an area in Argentina or Uganda or somewhere in Eastern Europe.
This was met with opposition for various obvious and not so obvious reasons.
Ultimately they decided to displace a people in Palestine.
Finally, just so the record shows: they’re not innocent and not victims as is usually portrayed.
Well fuck it. May God be with the innocents.
We were talking about Ukraine and Russia originally.
You had no comment on the Defense industry post I laid out, why is that, just out of curiousity?
This is very funny.
On the one hand, Solovyov condemns the actions of the Israeli army, and on the other, he says that if it were not for the war in Ukraine, he would have gone to fight against Hamas.
This is called “sitting with your ass on two chairs.”
I’m a little bored with the conversation about Ukrainian industry. Besides, it’s time to take some stock.
They are:
1. Ukraine has not achieved significant successes at the front, this must be admitted, and may not achieve them in the foreseeable future. Late deliveries of Western weapons and the lack of aviation are taking their toll.
At the same time, Russia is successfully “riveting tanks” and replenishing the ranks of the mobilized.
2. Losses on the Russian side: irrecoverable at least 100,000, total about 300,000.
Losses on the Ukrainian side: irrecoverable at least 50,000, total about 150,000.
3. Sanctions work and don’t work at the same time. What does it mean? On the one hand, the restriction on the import of goods has significantly affected their value, on the other hand, goods, including dual-use goods, continue to flow into Russia and nothing can be done about it.
4. The activities of the Russian opposition are just a mouse fuss. Yes, they work, they help replenish the sanctions lists, publish revealing insights and conduct propaganda among those Russian citizens who already oppose Putin’s power.
As for that very “deep people”, the opposition is powerless here, because the power of the television overrides the power of the refrigerator.
They fear and despise the armed opposition, the RDK and the Legion, preferring to talk smartly about how they will organize our “Beautiful Russia of the Future.”
5. Ukrainians in most cases hate Russians and for good reason. This hatred blinds them so much that they don’t understand that without us they won’t win the war at all, and the slogan “Ukraine within the borders of ’91” is just a political slogan. With such an attitude, there cannot be any armed underground or resistance units with real sabotage in Russia. You can’t blow up an official’s car with pure enthusiasm, and you can’t derail a train. You need money, and a lot of it, so that you have something to risk.
Because now in Russia you can make good money in two ways – either sign a contract and go to war or get involved in the drug business.
6. No political forecasts regarding Putin’s elites and men with machine guns who will turn their weapons against Putin have come true and are unlikely to come true, at least until the death of the dictator.
7. It was not possible to drown the Russian economy; money for Russian energy resources still flows into the treasury. On the one hand, the West condemns Russia and despises Putin, on the other, it successfully cooperates with it.
8. The Putin regime will not collapse either in the near future or in the foreseeable future without any serious tectonic movements. The most real of them is the death of Putin.
This is my vision of the current situation.
Even the successes they did have are surprising to me.
Outnumbered, outgunned, yet did retake certain regions.
How they’re inflicting much more casulties is also surprising. It’s either Russian military incompetency or examplary combat-readiness of the Ukrainians.
And if SSU intercepts are anything to go by, it’s the former.
All in all, whenever people get overly optimistic (can be seen on the news and media all the time), it’s more of a coping mechanism, a way to lie to oneself to boost morale. But reality is harsh. Big fucks small. Even if small is morally good. Prison is a great oversimplifed model of geopolitics.
>> “This hatred blinds them so much that they don’t understand that without us they won’t win the war at all”
Maybe the civilians, right? But the intelligence agencies and defense department- who are college-educated professionals, they probably are exploring these options? WW1 and 2 was rife with such activity, surely Ukraine’s military brass isn’t discarding such options due to emotional outrage?
>> “No political forecasts regarding Putin’s elites and men with machine guns who will turn their weapons against Putin have come true and are unlikely to come true,”
This is never reliable and sounds more like wishful thinking. Putin is ex-KGB, he understands perfectly well the psychology of these people. I am sure he has made sure that this never happens. They get paid ungodly amounts of money for loyalty probably, not just them but the whole circle with a wide radius of men around Putin.
As I said before, to say it again, it does look indeed grim for the Ukrainians. Get back as much land as you can and live with having some of it taken away because the war wont go on forever.